The chance to talk to one’s artistic heroes does not come often. When it does, prepariedness is helpful, as is adaptability. Had I stuck closely to the 2 pages of questions I had begun our zoom call with, I’m uncertain we would have gotten to the subject of a Japanese Tea Ceremony with movie producer Joel Silver. Read on…
GD: I know you’re going to know it, but I really liked when I learned that kung fu isn’t just martial art. Kung fu means; it's like a talent.
Like if you're a good writer, you have good, kung fu. Like it means your great. It's a beautiful thing. It's like, well, you know, a mechanic could have good kung fu and that’s a beautiful way to look things.
PLUGO: Oh, it's true. It's totally true. I mean, this is stuff that I love to talk about. There are so many layers to it. The example I like to use is tea. Kung Fu Tea or Kung Fu Cha (工夫茶) is growing in popularity out here in California. You can imagine is as similar to the iconic Japanese Tea Ceremony.
GD: Oh Yeah?
PLUGO: just think of it as a Kung Fu version, similar but not the same. Rather than Green Tea it’s more of a red tea. It’s like what we talked about earlier the parallels and differences between a Samurai and a Shaolin Monk. May one’s more expressive than the other, or less formal.
GD: When I worked on The Matrix, I got to go to the press junkets and we went to Japan and we went to a tea ceremony. And Joel Silver was there just like a hand grenade with the pin pulled. I mean, it's a solemn, quiet thing ahe's talking through the whole thing and. That was him.
PLUGO: Well, so he would do great at a kung fu tea ceremony because there is a lot of talking and the tea is very caffeinated.
GD: But this was just something. You know, how they are, everything is like a kabuki theater.
PLUGO: Yeah, well, it's a clash of worlds, right?
GD: And it's something that I guess we're all kind of doing it in a way, right? As we're picking and trying to convey something in our art.
PLUGO: Right. So you're kind of trying to pull some of the things that you've come to love about kung fu and about Chinese culture and translate it to a broader audience.
GD: You know, so I think when you're doing that, those kind of clashes happen, you know, like you couldn't make those translations if there wasn't a Joel Silver coming in to stir things up a little bit and change things up a little bit.
PLUGO: Those ceremonies are so reflective of that time and that place and years later we're only kind of just outside looking in on these things.
GD: Right. And we're trying our best to figure out. |